LOCAL SECURITY GUARD WIRES DEPOSIT
FOR NEW-IN-THE-BOX LARGE PLASMA TV
AT PRICE THAT’S TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE
Classified ads used to fleece unwitting buyers;
Consumer Protection Division refuses to help
By Alan Z. Forman
How would you like to buy a new-in-the-box never-been-used 65-inch flat-screen plasma TV for under $400?
Sound too good to be true? Well, maybe that’s because it is.
Baltimore security guard Cynthia Green found out the hard way. She answered what seemed to be a reasonable classified ad; talked by cellphone to a woman with a Russian accent offering the television set for sale; and wired her a good faith deposit of $100.
That was the last she saw of her money. The last communication she had with the seller (except for several hang-up phone calls).
And the TV set?
The TV set was never really in the mix.
So, being the good citizen that she is, and expecting that the government to which she pays her taxes would help her, the security guard turned for assistance last week to the Maryland Attorney General’s Consumer Protection Division. Surely they could help her try to get her $100 back.
Or could they?
Or, to put it another way: Would they?
STATE AGENCY REFUSES TO HELP
The answer is No. Nor would they respond to requests from Voice of Baltimore for comment regarding their refusal.
“We can’t help you,” the 45-year-old security guard was told by Alice Katsianos, a management associate in the AG’s Consumer Protection Division, the state agency charged with responsibility for helping consumers who have, among other things, been rooked like Cynthia Green.
Armed with Walmart MoneyGram stubs, fax records and voicemail/text messages on her cellphone, Green was told by Katsianos there was no need for the AG’s protection division to make copies of anything, because, she told Green, “There’s nothing we can do to help you.”
That admission came after Katsianos had initially refused to even see Green, telling her by phone to fax all her information to the Consumer Protection Division.
“But how,” asked Green, “could I fax cellphone messages and a lot of texts?” And how, she wondered, could she detail a story of fraud and deception to a state agency that obviously wasn’t interested in her problem? despite its mandate to help her.
‘NOTHING THEY COULD DO’
“They told me there was nothing they could do about it,” she explained to VoB in a telephone interview earlier this week, “because it didn’t involve a store, like Walmart, or JC Penney.”
However the scam has operated in at least 15 states, at such a low level that neither the attorneys general nor the newspapers that unwittingly run the bogus ad have been willing to intervene.
The story begins in late October with the Baltimore Sun, which repeatedly ran a three-line classified ad offering the TV for sale, an advertisement that, unbeknownst to Green — and apparently not to advertising executives at The Sun as well — also ran in many other newspapers throughout the country, including the Jacksonville Florida Times-Union, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Richmond Times-Dispatch, and Anchorage (Alaska) Daily News, as well as the Chattanooga Times Free Press, Houston Chronicle and Norfolk Virginian-Pilot, among others, including an online listing on Craigslist.org.
Obviously not a lone television set for sale by a consumer hoping to unload an unused piece of merchandise, as implied in the ad:
“PLASMA TV Samsung: Still in the box. Never used! 65 in. with surround subwoofer system. Purchased in 2011. $390. 410-734-6401 or 561-876-7199.”
QUITE A BARGAIN
Even a used version of the set sells for over $2,000. On Wednesday, Amazon.com listed one for $2,299, along with a “refurbished” model for $1,728.99
New 65-inch plasma TVs sell online for anywhere from $2,215 to $4,500, depending on specific features. Some discount stores offer stripped-down versions of slightly smaller large-screen sets for $1,000-$1,200.
A new-in-the-box 65-inch Samsung for under $400 would thus be quite a bargain. And would likely sell pretty quickly, one would think.
Assuming you actually get the TV set, that is.
Cynthia Green wired her $100 deposit, plus $54.72 for shipping, to the purported seller, one Karin Nausederova, on Oct. 21, after being told, she said, “If you like it, then you pay the difference.”
The address she sent the money to — in West Palm Beach Florida — turned out to be a mail drop at Mailboxes.com.
When Green asked to come over to see the set — Nausederova had indicated by text message that she lived in Glen Burnie, not far from the security guard’s home in Cherry Hill — Green said she was told that the set was in fact in Florida, where Nausederova was supposedly moving.
DID NOT ANSWER CELLPHONE
So Green wired the money via Walmart MoneyGram. But next morning, when she called to find out what day the TV was to be shipped, the seller did not answer her cellphone nor did she respond to texts.
Sensing that something was amiss, Green then called using her son’s cellphone and recognized Nausederova’s voice, who said something was wrong with her phone — “It’s breaking up,” she said — but told Green to send the rest of the money.
After that, there were no more conversations. Nausederova never answered her phone again.
Fast-forward to Dec. 6, the first of several unsuccessful attempts by Voice of Baltimore to determine why the Maryland Attorney General’s Consumer Protection Division wouldn’t help the victim.
During that week, Green told VoB she contacted the Miami Police Dept. and talked to “the Florida police, [who] acted like they knew about the lady.”
They should. There are ripoff reports all over the Web warning consumers to be wary of the similarly spelled “Karina Knausederova” for scams involving everything from Internet fraud to bogus nanny/childcare and cleaning services, much of it in South Florida, where the scam artist is apparently based.
DID THE SUN DO THE RIGHT THING?
And what of the Baltimore Sun? When notified that Green was being ripped off, did The Sun do the right thing?
Well, Yes… and No.
In early November, when former Sun reporter Joseph Challmes, who lives in the midtown apartment building where Cynthia Green works, notified The Sun’s Senior Vice President of Sales Joe Brenneman via email through an intermediary about the bogus ad, Brenneman messaged back that The Sun had “determined that it should be cancelled” and that “all future insertions were deleted.”
In addition, “the Attorney General’s office has been notified,” Brenneman reported, adding: “I wish there was a way to completely prevent fraud in this world.”
However the ad exec noted that despite “every effort to ensure that fraudulent ads do not appear in our sections… all of those efforts can’t guarantee that every ad placed under false pretenses is prevented from making it” into the newspaper.
CONTINUED TO APPEAR REPEATEDLY
As such, the ad continued to appear repeatedly in The Sun for at least two to three more weeks, although at present it no longer seems to be running.
The question is, how will The Sun, and other newspapers, protect readers from being scammed in the future?
Will they be aggressive — or lax — in screening ads?
And will consumer protection agencies, like the one in Maryland, assist citizens who have been scammed?
Or continue to ignore them? as happened to Cynthia Green — or even lie to them?
When Green first contacted the Attorney General’s Consumer Protection Division, she was told — despite their notification weeks before by Senior Vice President Brenneman of The Sun — that the agency had no knowledge whatsoever of the bogus ad.
Former Sun reporter Joseph Challmes contributed to this report.
alforman@voiceofbaltimore.org
December 17th, 2011 - 7:27 PM
How stupid can you possibly be? How many times have we heard on the news that if a deal sounds like it’s too good to be true then it IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE!
I would like to here Ms. Green’s explanation of how she thought someone could sell an item that they probably paid more than $1,700.00 for at a price of $400.00. The only way anyone could do this is if the item was STOLEN or BROKEN.
I heard a saying a few years ago that “No one ever went broke by underestimating the stupidity of the American public.” Examples like this only confirm the truth of this saying.
December 17th, 2011 - 11:25 PM
[We luv ya, Harry, and always appreciate your thoughtful comments. But when you’re working several jobs like Ms. Green and raising a teenage son in a not-so-good neighborhood, it’s not always easy to read between the lines of a scam. Posting a $100 deposit on a plasma TV set that you may have seen advertised at discount for around $1200 suddenly may not seem so out of line.
You or I wouldn’t risk it, but others might. I don’t think you’d say they deserve to be cheated, would you? Look at all the folks who blow high percentages of their weekly salary betting on the lottery — and its various so-called “games” — for a chance at pie in the sky.
(Btw, we’re planning a follow-up story within the next week or so.) —Ed.]
December 18th, 2011 - 12:26 PM
You are absolutely correct when you say that nobody deserves to be cheated. I would like to see the perps in this case caught, prosecuted, and then after they are found guilty, dropped out of a helicopter hovering at 1,000 feet above M&T Bank Stadium during halftime at the next Ravens game. We need a new crime classification. Right now we have misdemeanors for minor crimes, felonies for serious crimes and we need a new category for the crime that causes all of us pain and inconvenience like these kinds of scams. Let’s call it the crime against civilized society (CACS for short). A CACS crime is one that causes “the system” to put in place security steps that require all of us to jump through hoops (whether or not we ever were their victims). The penalty for being found guilty of a CACS crime is, in all cases, the DEATH PENALTY. This penalty will be carried out in full view of society so that everyone who is even considering committing a similar crime will not think twice about it…they will consider it as insane as trying to swim across a lava lake in an active volcano. Some of the crimes I have in mind as CACS crimes are:
– Identity theft
– Drug smuggling
– Drug dealing
– Felons in possession of a firearm
– Attempting to board an aircraft with a firearm (even when it is “accidental”)
By the way, I’m glad that you found a way to suppress the jerk-offs who were “responding” to previous stories with inane comments like “thanks for bringing this story to light” while at the same time their signature to the story were things like “LooseWeightFast.com”. These people, along with anyone who sends out SPAM of any kind are also on my list of CACS criminals.
January 1st, 2012 - 4:06 AM
This scammer is a disgrace, its criminal that papers like the Sun continue to print her adds & the Attorney General can’t–or won”t–prosecute her.
February 3rd, 2012 - 7:42 PM
Thank You for posting this story. I live in Arkansas and she “IS” striking our state as I type. Posting on a ligitimite site for a washer/dryer. The lady calls me foreign accent with a really to good to be true offer, so I tell her that I will come and pick them up, she says she has a housekeeper that will help me. By the 2nd txt she’s wanting to fedex it to me LOL. I get home look up her # thanks to google I can see she’s a scam artist. If it makes anyone feel better I started messing with her acting stupid and all she finally stops contact with me then I tell her what a low life piece of scum she is and that I know who she is and that she can get out of my state and move on to another. CANT BELIEVE NO ONE IS DOING ANYTHING ABOUT THIS WOMAN AND SHE’S STUPID ENOUGH TO USE THE SAME CELL #, UNBELIEVABLE!
February 4th, 2012 - 4:04 PM
Thanks for your Comment, Teresa, VoB very much appreciates your input. We’re planning a follow-up story within the next couple weeks — focusing on the disinterest and inaction of supposedly responsible parties — and would appreciate any additional information you might be able to provide us. Please contact our managing editor at alforman@voiceofbaltimore.org. Thank you so much. —Ed.
December 27th, 2012 - 12:03 PM
She is continuing to scam people in Florida. She is running 1000+ job listings and doing identify theft. I need to find some victims in Florida to help put her away. She is currently in a diversion program for “First time offenders” (What a joke) and if we show that she’s still breaking laws they will consider prosecuting her on the multiple felonies that are pending. please anyone respond.
January 19th, 2013 - 10:30 AM
She has poised as a US division HR person for some Japanese company. Now, you can not get her to answer phones. Spent Thousands being chased all over Miami seemingly for a bogus job.
January 21st, 2013 - 6:56 PM
The scam continues to this day…now in the South Florida area. There is an ad in the help wanted section of the Sun-Sentinel: PRIVATE SECURITY – Corporate/Private security for nation wide corporation. FT. Annual agreement. 40hr/wk. Guarantee salary. $320k annually and ins benefits. Call HR directly 1-561-876-7199.
Anyone knows that security jobs pay around $12/hr – NOT $320,000 per year. I’m sure she’s working on identity theft. I haven’t called it, but just Googled the phone number and ended up at this Blog. I am a private investigator. If anyone wants me to a search and find out who this person really is, email me at bkfugate@gmail.com. I’ll do it at cost. I will provide my licensing info from the State of Florida if anyone wishes to pursue this.
March 22nd, 2013 - 8:24 AM
Still very active. Be careful with the group. They are criminals. Very brazen. Russion criminals have a bad ruputation here is S. Fla.
March 22nd, 2013 - 8:25 AM
Very brazen. Identity thieves. Possiblt dangerous.